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Postby NeoThermic » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:27 pm

Using last months forums statistics (with permission! :) ), here's the breakdown of the top three operating systems:

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Operating Systems   Hits      Percent
Windows            2511998      88.2 %
Macintosh           149680       5.2 %
Linux               117525       4.1 %


Breaking down Macintosh isn't surprising, 99% of their hits are from OSX. As for linux:

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Distro         Hits
Unspecified    64712
Ubuntu         25115
Fedora         13322
Debian          9652
Suse            4031
Centos           381
Red Hat          232
Mandriva          80


I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that. :)

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Postby Babylon5 » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:59 pm

I hear that 'unspecified' OS is a real bitch to install.
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Postby xander » Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:07 pm

Babylon5 wrote:I hear that 'unspecified' OS is a real bitch to install.

Yeah, but it's not as bad as Win2k! *ba-dum-ching*
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Postby Serathii » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:32 pm

If this is users...

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Operating Systems   Hits      Percent
Windows            2511998      88.2 %
Macintosh           149680       5.2 %
Linux               117525       4.1 %


Then this is crash percentage per boot.

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Operating Systems   Crashes      Percent
Windows            251199       8.82 %
Macintosh           1496        0.52 %
Linux               1175        0.41 %
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Postby NeoThermic » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:48 pm

Serathii wrote:If this is users...


Then this is crash percentage per boot.


While one might find it funny to have a stab at the OS's, most of those hits are Windows XP, which everyone here who runs XP will agree it is very stable. You have to do something stupid to mess it up, which you can also do with any linux distro :P

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Postby xander » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:53 pm

NeoThermic wrote:
Serathii wrote:If this is users...


Then this is crash percentage per boot.


While one might find it funny to have a stab at the OS's, most of those hits are Windows XP, which everyone here who runs XP will agree it is very stable. You have to do something stupid to mess it up, which you can also do with any linux distro :P

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While I am a dyed-in-the-wool Mac Head, I must agree with NeoThermic. I have to use WinXP at work. There are 30 machines in my computer lab, which are assaulted day in and day out by almost 500 elementary school students. When they were running Win98, the kids all knew what a BSOD was, and what to do about it (generally reboot it). However, we have not seen a single one since upgrading to WinXP in the early fall. Much as I don't really like Windows, I do not think that stability is a valid argument against it, anymore. Certainly, I have had programs crash, but I have yet to see anything completely take down the OS (I'm sure it happens, I just haven't seen it).

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Postby Dave2 » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:30 pm

NeoThermic wrote: You have to do something stupid to mess it up

Something stupid like...install suggested drivers from Windows Update.

*grumblestupidwindowsupdategrumble*
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Postby Serathii » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:15 pm

I still don't trust Windows on an NTFS partition after it deleted my hal.dll from the system32 folder on its own volition.
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Postby NeoThermic » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:16 pm

Dave2 wrote:
NeoThermic wrote: You have to do something stupid to mess it up

Something stupid like...install suggested drivers from Windows Update.

*grumblestupidwindowsupdategrumble*


Haha, yes. Hell, windows "updated" driver for my laptop removes the external VGA and TV support. How fucked is that? :)

Rule of thumb: windows update should only update windows. Not your drivers.

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Postby shinygerbil » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:38 pm

Also, Serathii, you got the figures wrong. Try 0.052 and 0.041 :P

And I'll back the general consensus here: at least since WinXP, most crashes on any OS tend to be user stupidity, or at least user bloodymindedness. ("It's going slow; I'm streaming three videos, running Skype and playing WoW. Oh, and I'm on messenger too, and I've got a bittorrent running. What's wrong with that? I don't understand!")

I'd say it's a heckuva lot easier to mess up Linux than XP; my own experiments show that highlighting all the files in C:\Windows\system32 and pressing shift+delete will do nothing major (i.e. you still have an operating system.) But on Linux:

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# cd /
# rm *

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Postby TheSquire » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:45 pm

shinygerbil wrote: But on Linux:

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# cd /
# rm *

:D


Oh the power. I just updated a whole linux distro by changing the sources.list, apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade. I love it!
I found there to be more little quirks and problems with Windows than Mac or Linux, even though I also have to agree: XP is the most stable Windows so far.
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Postby Serathii » Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:01 am

Well yeah, but nobody that stupid can install it in the first place, so problem solved.

Dell, on the other hand, gives WindowsXP to idiots, and Microsoft can't keep idiotproofing every inch of it in time.

Like the guys that forget their passwords and call Microsoft tech support...
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Postby Luca » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:57 pm

In reply to the original post:

Me! I will be getting a MacBook in a couple of weeks so I will eargerly be awaiting an OS X beta too. :P
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Postby Babylon5 » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:03 pm

Dave2 wrote:
NeoThermic wrote: You have to do something stupid to mess it up

Something stupid like...install suggested drivers from Windows Update.

*grumblestupidwindowsupdategrumble*


Did a recent update fuck up FF and Thunderbird for you? It did for me and my dad.
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Postby Serathii » Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:24 pm

They try to make it do that. You know Microsoft can't stand FireFox taking ground from IE.

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