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[Eral]

Second of ALL, i put Baghdad, IRaq as my location because i want to joined the Armed Forces and i wish i was 18 right now because i would go over their and fight for my country

Don't be stupid. We don't want your death. (no, poeples, don't say anything...) If you should have to read a book, better to choose this one, because there is something into, very, very, very interessant for you...:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye

[Vicious]

im reading that book this year, but i dont get it, Holden is a teen ager who never wants to grow up, what does that have to do with me

[nuclear cocaine]

wow lol

[trickser]

I would say, it says, dont trust anybody but yourself, among other things. So before your sell your body and your mind to the warmachin, you should have time to figure out what you really want. Become the adult you wanna be and not how the army needs you.

I dont understand what you expect from going to Irak, not that i know what will happan there, but its certainly not fun, love, beauty or wisdom. Maybe you get some money but not enough to make you rich. So from all good thing in this life, you will hardly find it there.

[Vicious]

I would say, it says, dont trust anybody but yourself, among other things. So before your sell your body and your mind to the warmachin, you should have time to figure out what you really want. Become the adult you wanna be and not how the army needs you.

I dont understand what you expect from going to Irak, not that i know what will happan there, but its certainly not fun, love, beauty or wisdom. Maybe you get some money but not enough to make you rich. So from all good thing in this life, you will hardly find it there.

The money isnt y i want to go, its because im a patriotic person, and i want to defend the country that i love from domestic and foreign evils.

[Forrest Krunk]

huge can of worms opened here! I will put politics aside and say that patriotism can be expressed in non violent ways, by the time your 18 the US will no longer be occupying Iraq, and going there and fighting doesn't necessarily make you more patriotic...Vic your smart enough to join in college as an officer in ROTC or something like that....grunts get shit on :b WAR is hell!

[rus|Mike]

Second of ALL, i put Baghdad, IRaq as my location because i want to joined the Armed Forces and i wish i was 18 right now because i would go over their and fight for my country

Don't be stupid. We don't want your death.

You've got to use "we" more carefully

im a patriotic person, and i want to defend the country that i love from domestic and foreign evils.

You can't defend the country from domestic things while you're in the army. The army is used for foreign ones only (until it's an evil army, ofcoirse ). Gotta learn what army is/does before considering joining

EDIT:
I didn't read what you guys wrote about Da Vinci Code but I fairly liked all Brown's books (except probably Digital Fortress).

[sfericz]

You can't defend the country from domestic things while you're in the army.

I disagree, at least from the US Military's perspective. Our oath when in enlisting has the line " I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

That same quote is in our Oath of citizenship for the United States, for any immigrant coming to USA.

[rus|Mike]

Army isn't usually used against the country's citizens. It's totaly ineffective. You have police forces to take care of any internal troubles.

[Vicious]

huge can of worms opened here! I will put politics aside and say that patriotism can be expressed in non violent ways, by the time your 18 the US will no longer be occupying Iraq, and going there and fighting doesn't necessarily make you more patriotic...Vic your smart enough to join in college as an officer in ROTC or something like that....grunts get shit on :b WAR is hell!

yes, going to into the army as a grunt is stupid, going threw ROTC then OCS is the way to go

[sfericz]

That isn't what I was refuting. You said one can't defend their country from domestic things while in the US Army. I'm saying they can, and their oath when sworn in says so.

[rus|Mike]

That isn't what I was refuting. You said one can't defend their country from domestic things while in the US Army. I'm saying they can, and their oath when sworn in says so.

Okay, they can but they will not

[sfericz]

huge can of worms opened here! I will put politics aside and say that patriotism can be expressed in non violent ways, by the time your 18 the US will no longer be occupying Iraq, and going there and fighting doesn't necessarily make you more patriotic...Vic your smart enough to join in college as an officer in ROTC or something like that....grunts get shit on :b WAR is hell!

yes, going to into the army as a grunt is stupid, going threw ROTC then OCS is the way to go

If you haven't enlisted as either before, I don't think you have the know how to say which is stupid or better.

[Eral]

Nice, there is animation...

I would say, it says, dont trust anybody but yourself, among other things. So before your sell your body and your mind to the warmachin, you should have time to figure out what you really want. Become the adult you wanna be and not how the army needs you.

Happy to find a poet.

Second of ALL, i put Baghdad, IRaq as my location because i want to joined the Armed Forces and i wish i was 18 right now because i would go over their and fight for my country

Don't be stupid. We don't want your death.

You've got to use "we" more carefully

im a patriotic person, and i want to defend the country that i love from domestic and foreign evils.

You can't defend the country from domestic things while you're in the army. The army is used for foreign ones only (until it's an evil army, ofcoirse ). Gotta learn what army is/does before considering joining

EDIT:
I didn't read what you guys wrote about Da Vinci Code but I fairly liked all Brown's books (except probably Digital Fortress).

1- "WE" is not really given in french. It can be a total or a partial inclusion of/in a group. There are two words for it. "ON " (means everybody? - well explained anyway by the passiv form of a sentence) and "NOUS" (means everyone). And i'm not able to translate it perfectly. So, here was the first acceptation of this term... Then "we" agree Micky...

2- Did you read THE FOUCAULT's PENDULUM of Umberto Eco? If you liked Da Vinci Code or such novel...

im a patriotic person, and i want to defend the country that i love from domestic and foreign evils.

...from the_Reds for example?

[cza]

*buries worms quietly back in soil*


A few points.

1. FWIW, I also didn't like Catcher in the Rye all that much when I read it in high school. Have you read The Chocolate War (Cormier)? The Forever War (Haldeman)? A Separate Peace (Knowles)? You might like those more. I'll pm you my thoughts on enlistment.

2. I was suspicious of the SS as well, since I figured this game would attract some far right-types. Instead, I've met more centrist to liberals than reactionaries. If Vicious says he doesn't support the SS, I believe him until he proves otherwise. I haven't talked with him much, but have yet to see anything like that come out of his mouth. It could just as easily refer to SS missiles. Or maybe he dreams of driving an Impala when he starts driving.

3. The oath does have that language, but it's more symbolic than a warrant for action. The warrant is given legislatively: the military's role in the domestic sphere is governed by the Posse Comitatus Act (1878) and the Insurrection Act (1807). There are some rare cases where the military can be mobilized against domestic threats. Military force was used frequently in labor disputes in the late 19th and early 20th century. The Bonus Army of poor veterans were dispersed from Washington, D.C. in 1932 by infantry and a few tanks under MacArthur and Patton (Posse Comit. doesn't apply to D.C.). Eisenhower federalized the national guard and deployed 101st Airborne troops in Little Rock to escort children to school and enforce the 14th Amendment in 1957. National guard and federal troops were sent into Chicago to quell the rioting after Martin Luther King's death. And of course, many of us are familiar with the fighters patrolling above our cities after September 11.

Defense authorization bills in 2006 and 2007 made it a lot easier to deploy the military in domestic law enforcement roles, but these expanded powers were repealed (as they should have been) in 2008.

The Siege, though melodramatic, was built around the tension of the role of military and civil policing in American democracy. 24 also plays with this theme a lot, usually in a one-sided and reductive way.


If any of you have access to JSTOR, there's an article (which I have yet to read) by David Adams in the Journal of Peace Research, v. 32 (May 1995): 197-211 titled "Internal Military Intervention in the United States."
http://www.jstor.org/stable/425067