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Re: RGeezy911 abusing admin privileges, please help

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Re: RGeezy911 abusing admin privileges, please help

Postby Colytic » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:35 pm

RGeezy911 wrote:
Colytic wrote:We don't care what you want, nor do we recognize your legitimacy.

ad hominem - and be careful, your position suggests that you speak on behalf of everyone here. I would rather hear everyone's individual voice on the matter.


Went right for the cherry-picking did we? I speak on behalf of many. Myself, Senator, Zorotama, Endless, Arstotzka, M0TH, even MAX. CZA saw right through you as a concern troll.

RGeezy911 wrote:Against your first point, I was asked by John Knottenbelt if I wanted to be a moderator. This wasn't something I just gave myself.


I am referring to your 'ambitions' for this board, which you were never given as evidenced by your frustrated desire to make IV see things your way.

As for your second point, how can you be so confident to speak on behalf of Introversion?


Because I've been here some time. This is the way they and their admins behaved and they have probably said as much in words, that I've forgotten. If you don't know the history of these boards, perhaps you should not try and shape the future.

Now answer my question, on what authority do you overturn Vicious' unban?

Your dodging and deliberate misinterpetation of the oppositions' arguments is intellectually dishonest. We both know you're doing it.
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Postby DTNC Vicious » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:40 pm

It seemed all the chances I try to give people SH, Baton Etc just didn't work out. I unbanned SH so he can pm people he said he needed to talk to, I advised him to keep off from posting on the boards he didn't listen so he's banned again. Baton situation is more trickey and deep rooted, goes past these boards and stems from ingame shit talk as well which was brought on here and directed at people of power..*you know who*, so he was banned. But me being the forgiver and trying to settle things down that obviously backfired also since some people have a stick so far up their ass it's hard to figure out a solution where all sides are happy. But it seems some people's rights are more valued than mine regarding decision making.
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Re: RGeezy911 abusing admin privileges, please help

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Re: RGeezy911 abusing admin privileges, please help

Postby Colytic » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:48 pm

Colytic wrote:Now answer my question, on what authority do you overturn Vicious' unban?

RGeezy911 wrote:Because as moderators, we become equal in power and authority.


A non sequitur. If you are equal in authority, you cannot overturn his decision. Answer that.

(I see you followed that statement with concern troll philosophies...but let's address the above for now).
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Re: RGeezy911 abusing admin privileges, please help

Postby RGeezy911 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:52 pm

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Re: RGeezy911 abusing admin privileges, please help

Postby Colytic » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:54 pm

RGeezy911 wrote:I overturned his ruling because of the past issues with Baton. An overturn that should have also been communicated.


Colytic wrote:If you are equal in authority, you cannot overturn his decision.


I have two other points which you are avoiding:

1. John has nothing to do with your 'ambitions' for this board, as evidenced by your frustrated desire to make IV see things your way.

2. In this community's nine year history, your attitude has never been shared by Introversion, nor its admins. What gives you the right, on your own, to change this?

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RGeezy911 wrote:I'm not sure what emotion you are trying to evoke from me Colytic. I take it you're not taking this as seriously as I think you are. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


I don't know why you are inferring this but it is an ad hominem. Please address my points.
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Re: RGeezy911 abusing admin privileges, please help

Postby Isidore » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:04 pm

If I say that some guys let Zorotama alone wanking his little power...I deserve to be banned?

I said that about our favourite moderator...that's why I am banned.

Zorotama

RGeezy911 wrote:My only defense was due to Baton's previous issues (and he was not getting better).

please Geezy, I read your long post as you asked...do the same with mine (Zorotama) and answer please (the past of baton's ban is not an argument)
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Re: RGeezy911 abusing admin privileges, please help

Postby DTNC Vicious » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:05 pm

this thread summed up in one meme

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gg.


Edit: To say time on the boards doesn't matter is in fact bs, i've been a mod/admin here longer than everyone currently in this convo. It seemed way back when i was given the position they valued my commitment to this great defcon community. You can say what you want but still what you did is like a substitute teacher coming into a different class and giving the head professor who has tenure a lecture on how he's teaching his class wrong, catch my drift?
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Re: RGeezy911 abusing admin privileges, please help

Postby Laika » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:06 pm

There are too many admins. Even if we have means to communicate, there are decisions we won't be able to agree on. There has to be a single vision among the mods, and I don't see it happening.
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Re: RGeezy911 abusing admin privileges, please help

Postby trickser » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:09 pm

RGeezy911 wrote:
Colytic wrote:Now answer my question, on what authority do you overturn Vicious' unban?

Because as moderators, we become equal in power and authority. Time does not dictate ones strength, and it never should.

You have gained privileges. Authority has to be earned, you did very little towards it.

That is how animosity is created within the group - which leads to an even worse power struggle.

You care about the result of the struggle, not the struggle itself, otherwise you could just leave.

The only difference between moderators is opinion, which is then shared through Private Messages - a system that is lacking at the moment.

No, I don't want to be ruled by the backdoor politics. That's all just for some stupid little favors. If you punish people you have to explain yourself public, until you earned enough authority people actually trust you.

I overturned his ruling because of the past issues with Baton. An overturn that should have also been communicated.

A mistake in the form is the smallest one can make and the easiest to admit. That's all you have to offer?
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