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Postby Hyperion » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:43 pm

NeoThermic wrote:
a) Two of the stolen keys came from STEAM accounts, ergo two people are letting others use their steam account.

b) The other three people would have been told by the metaserver via e-mail that their key had been used from a number of IPs.
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Apologies, didn't know these facts or i'd have been far less sympathetic in my original tone :)
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Postby diomedes » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:49 pm

I have my steam account on like all four of my computers, just glad i didn't get added into the slaughter, as they are on different IPs.
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Postby Masaq » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:56 pm

diomedes wrote:I have my steam account on like all four of my computers, just glad i didn't get added into the slaughter, as they are on different IPs.


There is a slight difference between one account on 4 IP addresses, and one account on 2,000 machines. Each of those machines might pick up a new IP address dynamically every few weeks. In comparision my dear diomedes, you're small fry :)
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Postby diomedes » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:06 pm

Heh yeah i know, but if they wanted to be extremely stringent they would have knocked me as well as im sure other people out of the game.
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Postby torig » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:26 pm

diomedes wrote:Heh yeah i know, but if they wanted to be extremely stringent they would have knocked me as well as im sure other people out of the game.

You can't be that stringent I believe.
What about people (like myself) playing on a laptop ?
Granted, I've only played from two non-home locations, but that gives 3 totally different IP ranges (opposed to having 4 different IPs within a same network/range).
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Postby zjoere » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:44 pm

a quick google search :

http://cs.rin.ru/forum/search.php?searc ... e8e7ba300e (post above last post)
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Postby torig » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:51 pm

Hmm, I hadn't tried before but now I googled for defcon cracks.
To my surprise, there are a lot of results. There are even "fixed" exe's on gamecopyworld; though I doubt those would allow online play (or so I hope).
Other links were torrents with cracks included (probably a working serial), but I didn't go through the trouble of downloading two to see if the keys were identical.
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Postby OAM » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:29 pm

I nver even look at those sites, who knows what viruses lurk there.
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Postby torig » Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:23 am

OAM wrote:I nver even look at those sites, who knows what viruses lurk there.


Gamecopyworld has actually been running for over a decade, and is a site I consider trustworthy. On the other hand, I tend to do most of my gaming on a pc dedicated to that purpose so I don't really care if a file would contain a virus (but I've never gotten a virus through gamecopyworld).
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Postby Luk0r » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:58 am

xray wrote:I've seen it too. I can understand the move, but somebody has to be the legit owner ... of course it's hard to determine. But if he bought it with CC can't you check ? They most likely got their key stolen. The text about not wanting to hear from those is very harsh.
And I think it shout be "were" instead of "we're" :roll:

No. You do know that most keygens just read from a stored list of keys, right? They rarely actually generate new keys on the fly. Someone's obviously bought the game and given their key out to people.

Usually companies like EA put a hardcoded limit on the number of computers that can use the same key, so I think people should be thankful that IV aren't deleting anyone that uses their key on a few different computers.
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Postby Erasmus J Homeowner » Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:52 pm

So thats why I can only play as a demo user.

bah
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Postby NeoThermic » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:53 pm

Erasmus J Homeowner wrote:So thats why I can only play as a demo user.

bah


I hope to god that's a joke...


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Postby Erasmus J Homeowner » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:02 pm

NeoThermic wrote:
I hope to god that's a joke...


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Who's he, then?


I paid fer it! best tenner i ever spent.
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Postby Torp » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:32 am

torig wrote:
diomedes wrote:Heh yeah i know, but if they wanted to be extremely stringent they would have knocked me as well as im sure other people out of the game.

You can't be that stringent I believe.
What about people (like myself) playing on a laptop ?
Granted, I've only played from two non-home locations, but that gives 3 totally different IP ranges (opposed to having 4 different IPs within a same network/range).


They shouldn't react to that, and hopefully won't. Defcon's a perfect little arcade game to drag around on your laptop, and so I do. I don't play it that much, but I've played it from several different locations.

As for cracks and playing the game without having bought it, I know there's at least one crack out there able to let you play without a CD key. It won't allow you to play on the net, I suspect, but it works over LAN and virtual versions of this. A friend invited me to play way back when I only had the demo, suggesting playing over Hamachi and using this crack.

I decided to just buy the game. It is worth it.
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Postby torig » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:37 am

I didn't stay a demo player for long either.

In september I quit my job after having started my own company. In December I was back with my former employer (now as my client) doing a pentest for them from Paris.
On Friday 27th December I was still finishing my report, but with the holidays there weren't that many people in. As the day was ending, the weekend atmosphere hung around the office and I decided to finish my work over the weekend. So I surfed around a bit, ended up on a "games of 2006" page which mentioned a game called defcon.
The screenshots reminded me of something I had seen before. WARGAMES.
I downloaded the demo, launched it immediately, got beaten by the CPU two times, played the tutorial and bought the game immediately ;)
Been playing ever since ;)

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