Warning: VTP

[ERTO]

I hate bitching about people, but I thought I'd give gamers here a heads up. For the most part, almost all Defcon servers I've played on have been great; however, I've had a few very bad experiences on a server run by "VTP". The games are usually called "Veterans Day 3x3" or somesuch. Basically, so far as I can tell, VTP only hosts games to mess with people. All sorts of crap; going on and on about how he's "monitoring IPs" the whole game, threatening to shut the server down if people drop below 5x (despite spending 10+ mins at a stretch at 1X himself, while everyone begs him to go to 5x), IP blocking at the server level players he's pissed off with (effectively kicking them) and refusing to kick abusive players (like his friend, who was all-silo teamfragging everyone on a no-defection game right after he stated that he was walking away from the computer, which he'd left running at 1X). And, of course, three games now he's just randomly shut the server down -- twice because he'd just been attacked with a huge blitz, and once because everyone was mad at him for being such an idiot. Point is, VTP's a bit of a jerk and is only running servers to laugh at people as he messes with them. Since he always names his games the same thing, he should be easy to avoid.

I really would like to have some sort of key-based player registry, not for ranking's sake, but to make it easier to brand and filter the jackasses out there.

Fun screenshot from the game where he refused to boot the teamfragger, (Jaddie) then shut the server down (I'm Col. Ripper):

[Slinken]

Sure he was an idiot, but there was a reason that the "Grievers List" was locked. That was beacuse everyone can change his name so easy so its inpossible to know its who it is. I can easily name myself Col. Ripper and be a jackass then you get the blame.

[shinygerbil]

Yes, but...

Since he always names his games the same thing, he should be easy to avoid.

So he clearly doesn't care what people think of him.

[Slinken]

But if he reads this post (not likely beacuse hes surely a steam player (no offence all mature steam users)) he will surely change his

[andym00]

Just had it with him as well..
Complained non-stop throughout the game, then with half an hour to go (set time limit game) he started demanding people launch their nukes in the next minute otherwise he'll shut the server down.. And he did..
I'm steering clear of him or any other servers with his IP.. What a waste of an evening that turned out to be..

[mobius]

yeah ive come accross the red team there and im under the impression that MSTCROW and VTB are either the same person or two people in the same room.

[Alyssa]

Sure he was an idiot, but there was a reason that the "Grievers List" was locked. That was beacuse everyone can change his name so easy so its inpossible to know its who it is. I can easily name myself Col. Ripper and be a jackass then you get the blame.

Griefer management is a HUGE issue in online games, still to this day you can't must individual players' voices or text chat in Unreal Tournament 2004 and as such hardly any servers use voice anymore, which really takes a lot of the fun away.

I'm a big fan of things like IP tracking, muting and kick voting to keep griefers from ruining everyone's good time.

That being said I've definitely enjoyed the occasional round of griefing when I get stuck on a team where some n00b decides he's Cobra Commander and screams at everyone to do what he says!

[Angel of Death]

But if he reads this post (not likely beacuse hes surely a steam player (no offence all mature steam users)) he will surely change his

I am a Steam Player and I read this forum every day.

[mibias]

no offence all mature steam users

what is is you dont get?

[Sirthomasthegreat]

But if he reads this post (not likely beacuse hes surely a steam player (no offence all mature steam users)) he will surely change his

I am a Steam Player and I read this forum every day.

Me too. Just a question, if MSTCROW and VTB are the same. And the griefers list was set up my mastercrow. Is there a connection? Is it for an ego trip? In which case it would be pretty funny because we kept asking him to add his own name to the list and he wouldnt.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

yeah ive come accross the red team there and im under the impression that MSTCROW and VTB are either the same person or two people in the same room.

Unlikely. I've played matches with both, and there's an enormous difference in skill level and maturity both. MSTCrow is by far the superior player.

[Sirthomasthegreat]

great game we had tonight Amerigo, I am [1337]WOPR by the way.

[wwarnick]

no offence all mature steam users

what is is you dont get?

I'm confused why he would label an abuser as a steam user. I know he's not bashing all steam users, but it still confuses my why he would even make that assumption.

wwarnick

[xander]

no offence all mature steam users

what is is you dont get?

I'm confused why he would label an abuser as a steam user. I know he's not bashing all steam users, but it still confuses my why he would even make that assumption.

wwarnick

Because the stereotypical Steam user is not all that mature. It is all about stereotypes.

xander

[wwarnick]

Right, I'm not trying to stir things up, but I'm curious what about the steam version would attract more immature users than the standalone?

wwarnick