DEFCON with STEAM concern..

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Postby Jetpac » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:39 pm

zerohourrct wrote:U should report that and send them a copy of your receipt. Its just what happens when you ID games by keys, someone's gonna figure out a key generator which will 'steal' at least one person's yet-to-be bought key. My suggestion in the future, simply buy directly from steam. Yes, you wont have a hard-copy, but you CAN back up the game to a disc once you have already downloaded it. You can then use this disc with a different computer with steam to install it faster than the download. :) I'm pro-steam, and I don't know why everyone hates it, it has a few problems that cant be helped with a key-identification online-verification software.


got a link with details on how to do that? im about to upgradepc and i have HL2, dm,css,dods, various mods i would like to back up
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Postby estel » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:44 pm

"Do that" refering to back up the game files?

Either go to your Steam directory on your hard drive, then the folder /SteamApps

Just copy all of the .gcf s that you want out of here - they're the game/update files for all the steam games.

Alternatively, open Steam, look at the games list, right click, and choose "Backup game". Simple :)
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Postby MrBunsy » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:53 pm

The 'backup game' function uses a bit of compression and can be divided into CD sized chunks if I remember correctly, but copinging the gcf files is a lot quicker. Both work though.
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Postby Hmuda » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:54 pm

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MarvintheParanoidAndroid wrote:Ooh, except for the fact that thanks to Steam, IV Software's work is being exposed to a HUGE playerbase... that can't be bad now, can it?
Well, it certeanly is good (and I mean GOOOOOD) for sales, but bad (and I mean BAAAAAAD) for the community in the long run.

I know it from personal experience. I'm a moderator on one of the biggest Hungarian forum and I can tell: "The more is not always the merrier."

Meh, we had our influx of Steam users when Darwinia hit Steam. Things really haven't changed around here that much. IV were deperate for money before Darwinia came out on Steam. Afterwords, they seem to be doing fine. I don't see how it is bad for the community... would you care to elaborate?
But of course. I've been experiencing this thing a lot.

At first that forum I'm talking about was just a backwater message board for a few people. We understood each other and helped whenever we could. We had about 200-300 people. There were no need for moderators as everyone knew their palce and didn't need any rules because we knew how to behave. It was pretty much how the IV forums are now.

And then it started to grow, more and more people came and right now we have more than 150.000 registered users. But of course that's only the registered usernames. There are thousands of them that are multiregs, stalkers or leavers. I'd say we have about 25.000 regular visitors. Now not a day goes by that the little group of moderators doesn't have to delete around half of the newly opened threads and delete an enormous amount of trolling mesasges.

Now I know IV boards will most probably never have this much visitors, but still, if more people will start pouring in problems will pop their evil heads up and we can do nothing to prevent it.

First will come those who cannot use the search function, and as we all know, that already started. Most of us will instinctly start bashing these poor fellows. Then will come those who do this on purpose and other things that only aimed to destroy the community. These type of users are called "Trolls". And I can guarantee one thing for sure:

The more numerous we are, the more chance that trolls will start comming in. They won't stop at rampaging on the boards, and they will play the game too.

The only consoling tought is that the type of game Defcon and the other IV games are, well these types require thinking. Trolls aren't really good at that, I can tell you that. They will fall out of the community either by being ignored (best solution) or being banned (they might come back with a multireg, and I know from experience that most of them WILL come back), or being IP banned (but that's very rare).

I've been a member of many communities. the Hungarian SG.hu I was talking about, the Lionhead boards, Elixir Studios boards...I could go on. If those moderate sized forums are crawling with trolls, than if the numbers here start to grow, than we will have a few of them too.

Now that's what I meant by saying: "bad (and I mean BAAAAAAD) for the community in the long run"
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Postby xyzyxx » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:07 pm

I remember there being lots of trolls back when Uplink was the only IV game and Darwinia hadn't even been announced.

What happened to those days.
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Postby Babylon5 » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:12 pm

Beno and Dr4g0n immediately spring to mind...
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Postby xyzyxx » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:15 pm

JayGee and CIA were the first to my mind.
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Postby Hmuda » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:15 pm

Well, I guess I should be thankful that I was only a rare-visiting stalker back then.
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Postby Babylon5 » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:18 pm

Ah, but you missed the "My forum was hacked while I was offline" thread/legend.
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Postby Hmuda » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:21 pm

Huh? What happened?
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Postby Babylon5 » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:29 pm

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Postby Hmuda » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:37 pm

Thanks, I put it in my favorites for later reading. :)
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Postby MrBunsy » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:40 pm

That is sooo great! The stuff of forum legends certainly.
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Postby xander » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:40 pm


Now you've done it. Beno is going to sue you! with his lawyer!

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Postby Babylon5 » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:41 pm

Oh noes! We is teh doooomed!
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