And uh, thanks for showing us that you know where the reply button is located, but it is possible to put more than one sentence in a post, you know? Sorry, I should have collected my thoughts a little better, before hitting the submit. I thought about posting an appology, but that would have been a...

Had this been religious, it should have had something about marriage in it. I don't recall God saying, wait till you get a good, high paying job.

jelco wrote:If you can tell me about someone who has been advocating abstinence for purely political reasons (in the US of course), I'd be very surprised to hear it.Jelco

I can't read the fine print, but it could have been from a group funded to fight AIDS, or STD's.

jelco wrote:That's like saying that a school isn't educational because you could replace it with a factory or a shooting range

That's not even close to the same thing...

It's the usual religious twits pushing abstinence only miseducation. I saw no religious message here. This is more of a social responsiblity type message, such as China's one child per couple policy. The fact that it advocates the same behavior does not make it the same message, because the reasoni...

Our country was founded on principals of freedom that have been eroding since nearly its beginning. Perhaps the Revolutionary war was unnecessary, because we have accepted everything we ever fought against.

What evidence do you have that the founding fathers drew that line? The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and public debt as the greatest...

If you do, what is the difference between funding defenses from fire, riots, or invasions, versus protection from sickness, hunger, or the societal and economic drain that poverty and wealth disproportion bring? There are lots of things that the government spends money on that are beneficial. A cou...

I've thought about this, and I've decided you are correct. But I've also decided that the government should not have taken the money it rebated in the first place. Why not? It's easy to feel hard done by when you have to give up your own money, but it's taxes that support the military opperations a...

On the other hand sending checks to tax payers is one of the more useless ways to spend money and has a very, very low return rate. Tax rebates provide a low return rate to whom? They provide a low rate of return as far as an investment in economic stimulus. I've thought about this, and I've decide...

Stewsburntmonkey wrote:On the other hand sending checks to tax payers is one of the more useless ways to spend money and has a very, very low return rate.

Tax rebates provide a low return rate to whom?

You do realize that you need return for your investment, right? Otherwise you're just getting further in debt. Well said. This is the crux of the problem with government spending. Yes, it does create jobs for the duration of the spending. But, what if that spending had been for something that itsel...

I'm not religious mind you, but I do have a feeling for when good speechers touch me, and this man definitely did. Feeling should be generated by the force of substance in a speech. This speech was meandering platitudes, and it was meant to work on the "feeling over substance" crowd that ...

:) people don't get much smarter over time obviously Very true. It doesn't take a lifetime to see history repeat itself. Yes, it will take 4 years for people to realize they have made a huge mistake in who they have picked to run their country, i dont know why people always have to go against the n...

Cyan. wrote::) people don't get much smarter over time obviously

Very true. It doesn't take a lifetime to see history repeat itself.