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Postby tllotpfkamvpe » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:10 pm

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Postby rus|Mike » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:25 pm

MVPE wrote:If someone asks for max speed you think they are planning a sub launch???

Yes.
MVPE wrote:not playing the whole game on slow speed and microing every fight

We both know that it is only a lame excuse to explain why you lose 1v1s to good players. Yea. Just because you don't bother to micro. Ofcoirse. :lol: :lol:
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Postby tllotpfkamvpe » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:32 pm

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Postby tllotpfkamvpe » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:40 pm

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Postby rus|Mike » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:07 pm

I have seen you play games where you do nothing but sit back, even after you have killed the enemy navy you go looking for phantom ships and subs, you obviously cant count either. I have never seen you attack well,

Learn this one: "It is the end that counts". I don't care what you don't like about my style. You keep finding excuses for losing. Now it looks like this "yea, he won but only because he sitted back. Everyone can sit back."

That is why you suck at 6 player

lol :lol: :lol: I also suck in Galactic Civilisations, Prey and Age of Empires. For exactly the same reaon: I didn't play them. Why do I need to play 6p and develop myself there if I just don't like it?? :shock: :shock:

you will never be a true all round good defcon player.

Well if we think that way, than you are also none of an all-round player, because in 1v1s even my granny plays better. Man. You lost to me as Europe, being Africa... that shows that the difference between our skills is so huge that even such win-win set-up as you got can't help you.


Ah, MVPE, MVPE... further discussion is becoming useless... once again: your "tips" have nothing to do with advanced tactics. It will do very nice for a guide "1v1s for newbies. How to defeat a CPU?". But it makes pro players laugh. Rename the topic in something like that and we all will appreciate your work.
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Postby tllotpfkamvpe » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:20 pm

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Postby Hyperion » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:35 pm

Tactic No. 51: Better to use a battleship, you're mostly hoping to find radar anyway and no one else would be stupid enough to put installations directly on their coastline. Plus you won't lose 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 6 nukes.

Tactic No. 31? (can't remember which number): Excellent tactic, using the speed setting, catches lots of people out :wink: but good to make sure you've already surfaced and picked targets with those subs before changing speed :roll:
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Postby tllotpfkamvpe » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:38 pm

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Postby Hyperion » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:42 pm

tllotpfkamvpe wrote:thanks hyperion, i like to use carrier because it does a better job with its larger radar range, and I often find silos on the coastline, mostly against new players or EU and it is a good focusing point for my style of game, find and destroy.


Ah indeed the carrier does have a much larger radar but you said it yourself there...only useful against new players :wink: and not worth the sacrifice of that carriers resources... :roll: but that is opinion.

Do you have a list of these tactics somewhere? :P
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Postby world idiot » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:45 pm

i hope he doesn't post em all, as ruslMike said, we don't need a book on how to eat a cpu, every one he has posted here has been flawed somewhat
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Postby tllotpfkamvpe » Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:08 pm

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Postby world idiot » Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:09 pm

finally, someone responds to me with the word idiot, thank you

edit-and about calling us ungrateful, I was only joking with my remark
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Postby Blackbeard » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:43 pm

When do you place the carrier, do you wait until the last seconds of Defcon 4? And if you place too early, doesn't your opponent merely surround it with Battleships?
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Postby Hyperion » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:48 pm

Blackbeard wrote:When do you place the carrier, do you wait until the last seconds of Defcon 4? And if you place too early, doesn't your opponent merely surround it with Battleships?


You place it as soon as the game starts, at the edge of your water borders and set it off to its destination, it cant be seen until defcon 4 and it cant be attacked until defcon 3 and if your opponent chooses to surround it at defcon 4 with their fleet then you have bonus intel on their naval placements.
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:52 pm

BB's are just as effective at this as carriers in my opinion and have a couple of added bonuses. First, by 'just as effective' I mean that most people will put things close enough to the border to find with the bb's smaller radar.

The bonuses: If the other player is not done placing, he might put subs around the single bb giving you there location and reducing the effectiveness of his long term sub strategy/prolonging the time he needs to get them in place. The odds he'll place subs around a carrier are pretty slim. You don't lose two bombers, extra nukes, and waste fighters right at defcon 3. BB's are disposable, carriers aren't, so much.
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