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Postby wwarnick » Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:16 am

NeoThermic wrote:([0-9]{4}) ([0-9]{4}) ([0-9]{4}) ([0-9]{4})

I'm trying to figure out what that means. Does it mean that there's 4 groups of 4 digits? In that case, darn it, you've got me pegged! But I bet you don't know the confirmation number, or whatever it's called.

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Postby NeoThermic » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:42 am

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NeoThermic wrote:([0-9]{4}) ([0-9]{4}) ([0-9]{4}) ([0-9]{4})

I'm trying to figure out what that means. Does it mean that there's 4 groups of 4 digits? In that case, darn it, you've got me pegged! But I bet you don't know the confirmation number, or whatever it's called.

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Thats regex speak for 4 groups of 4 digits ranging from 0 to 9 for each digit.

As for the confirmation code,

([0-9]{3,4})

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Postby wwarnick » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:46 pm

3 or 4? 50/50 chance.

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Postby xander » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:47 pm

wwarnick wrote:3 or 4? 50/50 chance.

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Not quite. It depends upon what kind of card you have.

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Postby wwarnick » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:52 pm

Then what kind of card do I have?

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Postby NeoThermic » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:54 pm

wwarnick wrote:Then what kind of card do I have?

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Simple. If you have an American Express card, then it'll be 4 digits. Else it'll be 3.

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Postby xander » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:54 pm

wwarnick wrote:Then what kind of card do I have?

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I don't know, but the chances of you haveing, say, a Visa vs a MasterCard are not 50/50. There are many types of cards, and they are not uniformly distributed. Furthemore, you have yet to show independence.
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Postby wwarnick » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:50 pm

xander wrote:you have yet to show independence.

Meaning? I don't want to take this the wrong way.

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Postby xander » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:54 pm

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xander wrote:you have yet to show independence.

Meaning? I don't want to take this the wrong way.

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Statistical independence. The result of one trial cannot depend upon the result of another. Your choice of card may be related to your parents choice, or your geographical location, or you may have many cards, or one of many other factors. That means that they type of card that you have is not independent from the cards that other people have, which makes it that much harder to assign probabilities to the type of card that you, or anyone else, has.

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Postby wwarnick » Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:41 pm

Ah. Well, Neothermic be praised. The odds were against him and he still guessed correctly. Unfortunately, he still needs the expiration date and my name.

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Postby NeoThermic » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:12 pm

wwarnick wrote:Ah. Well, Neothermic be praised. The odds were against him and he still guessed correctly. Unfortunately, he still needs the expiration date and my name.

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The expiration date as a regex would be something like ([0-9]{2}/[0-9]{2}). Your name is a bit tricker, as we have to contemplate unicode. However, at a guess, you've no special characters in your name, so something like this would work: ([a-z\.\- ]+)i

Although if one wanted to be really mischievous, I'm sure it wouldn't take too long to find out enough info about you to get your major details. I mean, given the IP of your post and the time of it, I could fesably obtain your name from your ISP's RADIUS logs. It would require a bit of special handling to obtain the details (social engineering, in short), but it could be done. As for the card details... in theory once I know your full name and address, I can look up your family history. After that I could get a credit check done on you to find out who you bank with. All I would have to do then is call your bank up, use your mothers maiden name (this is why I *hate* those questions), and obtain your card details that way. Although that would require social engineering on a level that I'm not sure I can pass of on.

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Postby wwarnick » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:26 pm

With my mother's maiden name, they'll just hand out my credit card number?

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Postby xander » Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:16 pm

wwarnick wrote:With my mother's maiden name, they'll just hand out my credit card number?

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Possibly not the number, but with your name, your address, and your mother's maiden name, yes, he can probably get access to your financial information. As he says, that is why those questions are so stupid.

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Postby NeoThermic » Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:45 pm

wwarnick wrote:With my mother's maiden name, they'll just hand out my credit card number?

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Most credit companies will ask you to give your mother's maiden name as proof that you are who you say you are to access credit info. Although since I hate those questions, I never give my mothers maiden name.

But yes, the above situation is more than possible if you're not careful.

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Postby wwarnick » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:09 pm

That's no proof at all. Anyone can find a maiden name. Another reason to cut up all your credit cards.

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