Postby Zorotama » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:14 pm
Sadly the ukrainan crisis suscribes to the imperialistic logic. I don't want to use old categoryes..but "they" use them.
I seen some of your ideas in this topic and, beyond the flames, I agree with many aspects but I disagree about the base argument: the idea to which Russia uses more violence than US and EU.
The imperialistic powers act following longtime logic.. In my vision in the last 20 years US is trying to surround Russia, and I consider the last american wars (Afganistan and Iraq) as attempts to 1) break a possible russian sphere of influence and to 2) prolong the unavoidable slow american decline (geopolitically and economically).
USA and Obama's government are negotiating the american decline.
Russia and Putin's administration are following the opposite idea: escape from the encirclement and try to return a superpower. That's the meaning of the Iranian and syrian friendships.
If we don't consider this logic we don't understand why US are "placing" the AEGIS stuff in Romania, Turkey and (in 2018) in Poland (and maybe in Denmark too). And Japan is ready to start the same, ever with the US partnership (while Korea refused it!). I remember when Russia asked for a unique system of defence (EU, US and Russia) but obviously it's not in Nato conveniences.
China is silently colonializing the rich African earth (colonializing it in the american way...with no flags and crowns but with companies, technicians and commandos) to insure the energy for the next two centuryes (energy for the industry and for the future military supremacy).
EU is trying to unite itself and become larger cause the european states know that in this era they can survive only become a unique superpower. EU is the reign of diplomacy..for many reasons that I abruptly abstract with "history".
Violence is the substance of these perspectives..Putin promotes a fake referendum in Crimea but only after that Mrs. Ashton assured money to the "oranges" in Ukraina.
The carpet shows democracy (EU) or defence of people (RU) but under the carpet the people is used..and any way is considered legal. Using maniples of neonazi and infiltrated cops inside the filoeuropeans (the democrats LOL!!) or paramilitary fanatics inside the filorussians (the comunists LOL!!).
EU consider friend a corrupted mafiosa as Iulia Timoshenko simply because they think to their future business..democracy is only the way to sell the idea, to buy our support.
If I have to talk in a geopolitical way.. Russia had no chances, it's reacting with violence to the US (and EU) violence. The fact that someone thinks that anyway the american way is different because people live better under the american protection.. it's a bad argument. I would like to know if this is true also in San Salvador, in Mexico, in Chile during the filoamerican dictature, in Uruguay in the '70s. We are luckily making use of a burglary, and our luck is in according to the unluck of anybody else.
While, if we want to talk free from this arguments, following our feelings and our willings of freedom and respect for the real people, for the life of every human..we can't follow regional, national, geopolitical goals, we can't submit our minds to a partial logic, to a group of interests of the ascendant class, we can't forget that we are brothers and sisters, and the complexity of the reality is not an excuse to forget it but a challenge to our willings.
Maybe Obama looks more cute than Putin...but it's only couture.